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they've got lots of votes, but the elected representative, in this case, the elected president, is not as keen on the whole other bunch of stuff. the rule of law, separation of power, individual lib erties, s he's trying to do a power grab. this is the drama that's playing out between democracy on the one hand and on individual liberty. >> what seems confusing, what morsi did with his decree, declaring himself more powerful than the supreme court, he's also at the same time saying he's going to put this to the people to vote on a referendum and that should assuage those who don't like, just go to the ballot box. >> but think of what i just said, so yeah, you could get the people to agree to a constitution that does not protect the rights of minorities, that does not institute the rule of law in judicial review. there's always been distension. hitler was elected democratically, so the fact morsi can go to the people and more than popularity, because of organization, the islamic parties tend to win in these elections. >> it's not as though the people of egypt would like to see this kind
they've got lots of votes, but the elected representative, in this case, the elected president, is not as keen on the whole other bunch of stuff. the rule of law, separation of power, individual lib erties, s he's trying to do a power grab. this is the drama that's playing out between democracy on the one hand and on individual liberty. >> what seems confusing, what morsi did with his decree, declaring himself more powerful than the supreme court, he's also at the same time saying he's...
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he could be concerned about every citizen in the state that he was elected to serve. his job -- those are his constituents and that's his job. >> look, i see where you come from. we have to think about this in a broader sense. if every state is looking out for itself, there's going to free ride. they're going to engage in policies that damage everyone's well-being over the long term by looking out for their own re-election prospects. these guys are being political rather than looking out for the long-term interests of their citizens, their states and also the country as a whole. rather than sub sid dies development in really dangerous areas. that's called moral hazard, and that's something that's really bringing the country to its knees economically. >> last i checked, you look out for yourself. you might say that's not a great idea, if you're in new york -- actually, no, if you're in new york you're concerned about new york and not about california. you focus on where you are. that's a reality. >> all right. thanks very much to both of us. please let us know what you
he could be concerned about every citizen in the state that he was elected to serve. his job -- those are his constituents and that's his job. >> look, i see where you come from. we have to think about this in a broader sense. if every state is looking out for itself, there's going to free ride. they're going to engage in policies that damage everyone's well-being over the long term by looking out for their own re-election prospects. these guys are being political rather than looking out...
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engage in policies that damage everyone's wellbeing over the long term looking out for their own re-election prospects. >> wait, wait. >> they're really political rather than looking out for the long-term interests of the citizens, their states and also the country as a whole. >> last i checked -- >> beforehand rather than subsidize development and dangerous areas and that's moral hazard and that's something that's bringing the country to the knees economically. >> last i checked you look out for yourself. >> that's public servants are supposed to do, roland. >> no. in new york, you are concerned about new york and not california. you focus on where you are. that's the reality. >> all right. we are going to hit pause there. please let us know what you think about that conversation on twitter and facebook page. >>> next, when's a bigger insult? being called, you know, lame duck congress or new york jet? ts to test the 2.0-liter turbo engine. [ engine revs ] ♪ [ derek ] 272 horsepower. the lightest in its class. the cadillac ats outmatches the bmw 3 series. i cannot believe i have ended the
engage in policies that damage everyone's wellbeing over the long term looking out for their own re-election prospects. >> wait, wait. >> they're really political rather than looking out for the long-term interests of the citizens, their states and also the country as a whole. >> last i checked -- >> beforehand rather than subsidize development and dangerous areas and that's moral hazard and that's something that's bringing the country to the knees economically. >>...
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the election results are pretty consistent. the american public is ready for a modest increase in taxes for the upper 2% of taxpayers. having said that, there's another issue that's coming up in february or march and that's raising the debt ceiling once again. the republicans have a lot of leverage on that right now because the white house, the administration will desperately want to raise that debt ceiling so the u.s. doesn't go into default. that could undermine u.s. creditworthiness, u.s. interest rates, all that kind of stuff, and the republicans will have some serious leverage there down the road. both sides have leverage. my bottom line in the short run, the democrats have some more. >> so it sounds and before we even get to that very valuable piece of leverage, the debt ceiling discussions, it's odd that it would seem as though the democrats would benefit from heading over the fiscal cliff because then it's the marketing message of who was to blame for it. all the while though, wolf, there are all those calamitous cuts t
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there's an upcoming election. it's a short-term domestic tactic, wider damage is being done to relations with the u.s., eu and concept of a peace process, which is just a consent at the moment. >> it's true, michael. look, the reality that is benjamin netanyahu's current circumstances, his politics and his ideology all conspiracy to basically create this most recent move on settlement activity. not only conceptually go ahead with e-1, but to increase the number of units in settlements in the southern -- southeastern portion of jerusalem. i don't think he's going to go through with e-1, but he is going to go through with some of the new neighborhoods. i think there are over 2100 new units which would be 5% of all of the israeli units constructed in east jerusalem since 1967. so i think benjamin netanyahu worried about his right wing base in the wake of a cease-fire which he's being criticized from his right. in anticipation of upcoming elections does what he basically has done. he's committed to a unified jerusalem
there's an upcoming election. it's a short-term domestic tactic, wider damage is being done to relations with the u.s., eu and concept of a peace process, which is just a consent at the moment. >> it's true, michael. look, the reality that is benjamin netanyahu's current circumstances, his politics and his ideology all conspiracy to basically create this most recent move on settlement activity. not only conceptually go ahead with e-1, but to increase the number of units in settlements in...
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in safe seats so the crucial election is not the general election, it's the primary election, and as we know in primaries, there's low participation which gives a hugely disproportionate power to the rigid ideologues, the extremes on both sides. that makes it very difficult. second is the overwhelming amount of money, of all of the judicial mistakes that have been made in history by supreme courts, few in my judgment will history record as being more unwise and wrong than the supreme court decision in the citizens united case, which took a situation already reeking with too much money and just poured tons of it, more into it. so for members now, it's just a mad money chase all the time, which i think is demeaning to everybody and very, very unfortunate. so it's a combination of factors. many others, but those are some of them. >> so look, you've helped negotiate peace in northern ireland. you worked on peace in the middle east. how does the problem here get fixed? >> well, i think in the end, in democracies it's fixed only by the people. the word democracy is a combination of two gre
in safe seats so the crucial election is not the general election, it's the primary election, and as we know in primaries, there's low participation which gives a hugely disproportionate power to the rigid ideologues, the extremes on both sides. that makes it very difficult. second is the overwhelming amount of money, of all of the judicial mistakes that have been made in history by supreme courts, few in my judgment will history record as being more unwise and wrong than the supreme court...
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>> hey, deb, the presidential election may be fading into the rear view mirror. but it sounds a lot like campaign season. >> i spent a lot of time on the campaign trail visiting with people like you. push. >> pushing to avert the fiscal cliff. house republicans hours before the president's trip, pushed back against mr. obama's plans in their own campaign style video. >> this notion of $250,000 being the top 2% or the wealthy people in america, ignores the way most small businesses work in america. >> this political fight's over policy, but if you weren't paying attention, you would wear that the presidential election was still going on. while the fiscal cliff battle plays out, campaign politics marches on. >> i want to help create a better united states. we're months removed from the 2012 election, but governor rounds is looking forward to 2017. while 2014's a long way away, 2013 is just beyond the horizon, that's when chris christie -- >> i don't want to leave now. we have a job to do. that job won't be finished by next year. >> it may be the holiday season, but
>> hey, deb, the presidential election may be fading into the rear view mirror. but it sounds a lot like campaign season. >> i spent a lot of time on the campaign trail visiting with people like you. push. >> pushing to avert the fiscal cliff. house republicans hours before the president's trip, pushed back against mr. obama's plans in their own campaign style video. >> this notion of $250,000 being the top 2% or the wealthy people in america, ignores the way most small...
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house chief of staff on how to stay off the fiscal cliff and what the party should learn from the last election. >>> next, when the u.s. aimed high in the 1960s, we sent a man to the moon w the same effort, we can now cure cancer, that's what the head of the largest cancer center in the word, m.d. anderson says. >>> and america has lost it's number one standing in lotts of areas, from competitiveness to education, the new number one in most cases a scandinavian country, what is the credit sauce? we'll dig into it. but first here's my take. as we debate whether the two parties can ever come together and get things done, here is something president obama could do probably by himself that would be a single accomplishment of his presidency, end the war on terror. for the first time since 9/11, an administration official has raised this prospect. said in a speech to the oxford union last week, that as the battle against al qaeda continues, there will be come a tipping point as so many of the leaders and operatives of al qaeda have killed or captures such as al qaeda as we know it has been effectivel
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and i think you saw that in the election. i don't think that is their intent. i think their intent is quite sound. >> they are becoming the party of rich white older men. you can't think of any other section of the community right now thinking the republican party is for me. >> i think that is why the politics of this make it possible to go over the cliff. i think the democrats see if we go over the cliff the republicans get blamed. meanwhile. i think the republicans worry about bei ining blamed by a pri contender with the field. that doesn't mean they are obliged to stop this. his own party is slit. you are seeing groups coming out saying i'm prepared to go for a few more taxes. >> from both sides. on this, not exactly. this is one of the things that interested me. there is a lot of people in the republican party, in the senate who have said look, $250,000 is not a rich man, but it is not a rich person in new york city or loss ang. and the rates, which they want to go from 35 to 39.6%. maybe you are going to have to raise the threshold to get a deal. maybe you
and i think you saw that in the election. i don't think that is their intent. i think their intent is quite sound. >> they are becoming the party of rich white older men. you can't think of any other section of the community right now thinking the republican party is for me. >> i think that is why the politics of this make it possible to go over the cliff. i think the democrats see if we go over the cliff the republicans get blamed. meanwhile. i think the republicans worry about bei...
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situation where you move to a different type of constitution in which people can have a say in e lebl electing the government and where the countries have put in a more stable issue. so this is fantastically difficult. again, what we've seen in the middle east, we saw it in iraq and now in syria. once you lift the lid off of these very repressive regimes, out comes this religious, ethnic, tribal tense. >> how worried are you about the situation in egypt? >> i think egypt is key to the region. you've got to be extremely worried when you see instability affecting egypt. this is, again, these are the birth pains of proper democracy in some ways. but this struggle is immensely important because obviously, what is important in these countries, where they've moved to a democratic system, is that there is a clear understanding. it's a way of thinking. and part of that way of thinking is that you've got to preblgt minorities. you've got to -- democracy doesn't function unless it is accompanied by an open mind. and so, you can understand there is a lot of anxiety in egypt about the constitutional propo
situation where you move to a different type of constitution in which people can have a say in e lebl electing the government and where the countries have put in a more stable issue. so this is fantastically difficult. again, what we've seen in the middle east, we saw it in iraq and now in syria. once you lift the lid off of these very repressive regimes, out comes this religious, ethnic, tribal tense. >> how worried are you about the situation in egypt? >> i think egypt is key to...
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these are the folks who helped elect the president not too long ago. should the president step in and go to bat for them? >> well, you know, the unions have been enormously supportive of the president as you point out. not only during this campaign, not only as foot stole jer sold helping get out the vote, but also financially with their dollars. the white house already expressed its support for the unions opposing right to work legislation. one of a white house official put out a statement today, matt lairic, saying in part, let me find the statement, president obama has long opposed so-called right to work laws and he continues to oppose them now. the president believes our economy is stronger when workers get good wages and good benefits. and he opposes attempts to -- he opposes attempts that -- can we change the graphic? >> it is up on the screen. >> he opposes the -- roll back their rights. michigan and its workers' role in the revival of the u.s. automobile industry is a prime example of how unions have helped build a strong middle class and stro
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. >> at this moment when we're all tired from the election, you can see a break in the action. that adds to the momentousness of the evening. >> reporter: david letterman joked on his show that kennedy center honorees also receive an adjustable mattress and a new car. it was just a punch line, but they do get something else, a chance to nominate potential future honorees. randi. >> emily, thank you very much. >>> well, it's almost here. our live broadcast of cnn heros. it's our annual salute to those who make life better for those in need. here's gloria estefan. take a look. >> i love cnn heroes because people are used to seeing celebs on tv, politicians on tv. the people we should celebrate are the people out there doing things that help other human beings. >> tonight you're going to meet real super men and super women from across the globe. >> so shining the light on these heroes that do amazing things helps all of us say, i can do it too. st. jude, it's really an amazing place. the incredible research they do, they make it a soothing place for both the family and the child.
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>>> the first jobs report comes out since the election. far from the east coast, one midwestern community has positive thoughts about their community. largely because of the landscape developing at an astonishing speed. >>> the pioneer spirit is burning brightly. much of it occurs in a few small neighborhoods. >> i can go local. >>> mike farmer is the ceo of leap 2. a company with a highly advanced mobile search app. >> people stop by the office every day. it's fascinating. >> that must feel pretty good. >> yeah, it does. >> one big reason these companies are clustering here is that google chose this neighborhood to launch its much anticipated super high speed internet connection. 100 times faster than most internet links, google fiber allows massive video data and graphic files to move at astonishing speed, permitting development of whole new applications. >> this is exactly what you wanted. >> that's exactly it. we wanted local entrepreneurs to take advantage of the faster speeds google fiber would bring, and develop. the skies the limit
>>> the first jobs report comes out since the election. far from the east coast, one midwestern community has positive thoughts about their community. largely because of the landscape developing at an astonishing speed. >>> the pioneer spirit is burning brightly. much of it occurs in a few small neighborhoods. >> i can go local. >>> mike farmer is the ceo of leap 2. a company with a highly advanced mobile search app. >> people stop by the office every day....
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it's unlikely that in a formal election they're going to elect a democrat from south carolina to come to washington. hasn't happened in a while. my sense is that republicans will hold that seat eventually and whatever happens with jim demint. i was surprised that he decided to make that decision. we invited him to come on our show today and explain what's going on. i'm sure he's frustrated like a lot of conservatives are that president obama was re-elected for another four years and he worked hard to try to help romney get elected, help republicans and it's a source of frustration. a different challenge for him running a major think tank in washington and let's see how he does. >> for the time being it doesn't change the balance of power as the republicans aren't in control of the senate. >> there's a republican governor in south carolina and so she'll name someone in the short-term. i assume that's how it will work. once there's another election, i assume a republican will fill that seat. >> and i know you'll have much more on the fiscal cliff and any developments that hopefully we'l
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they're going to help determine future elections. i think paul ryan and marco rubio, they're trying to rebrand themselves and recast the republican party as a party of diversity and perhaps big ideas and a larger goal post. but i want to say this because i have to say this as vice chair of the party. as you know, the democratic party has a large and broad and deep base including vice president biden, who's done a terrific job in his capacity as the second in command, but also, we have governors. a lot of diversity. duval patrick and we can all look as governor cuomo, you have elizabeth warren that might be considered presidential. so i don't want to throw all our eggs in one basket because there are so many wonderful people. martin o'malley, for example, the governor of colorado. like the republicans, this will be a large field of candidates, but there's fo question if secretary of state hillary clinton decided to throw her gloves into the race, game on. >> she got a lot of competition. >> david frum, you think the republican party's
they're going to help determine future elections. i think paul ryan and marco rubio, they're trying to rebrand themselves and recast the republican party as a party of diversity and perhaps big ideas and a larger goal post. but i want to say this because i have to say this as vice chair of the party. as you know, the democratic party has a large and broad and deep base including vice president biden, who's done a terrific job in his capacity as the second in command, but also, we have...
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that's the ticket for admission because the president won the election and campaigned on that. the democrats are going to have to agree. they'll use euphemisms, but agree to cutting medicare and medicaid. and by the way, that means cutting for seniors and poor people and special needs kids. that is not an easy thing to ask anybody to do, let alone the democratic party. which really created these programs. this is going to be awful and gruesome, but 70 for 60 in your poll, 60% of americans want to raise taxes on well off americans. 70% don't want to cut or 80, don't want to cut medicare or medicaid, so the hard stuff is coming. this is the easy stuff. we can't even get the republicans to agree to that. >> we're out of time guys, nice to talk to you as always. i appreciate it. >>> next, violent clashes along the turkey, syria border and a new heir to the british throne is on the way. our piers morgan will explain the fuss. that's coming up next. >>> we're back with tonight's designed for men's health concerns as we age. it has 7 antioxidants to support cell health. one a day men'
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the presidential election may be fading into the rearview mirror, but it feels a lot like campaign season. >> i'm already missing the time that i spent on the campaign visiting towns like this and talking to folks like you. >> we love you. >> i love you back. >> the president speaking at a cam tpaign style event in philadelphia, pushing to avert the fiscal cliff. house republicans hours before the president's trip push back against mr. obama's plans in their own campaign style video. >> this notion of $250,000 being top 2% or the wealthy people in america ignores the way most small businesses work in america. >> this political fight is over policy, but if you weren't paying attention, you'd swear the presidential election was still going on. while the fiscal cliff battle plays out, campaign politics marches on. >> i want to help create a better united states. >> we're less than a month removed from the 2012 election, but former south dakota governor mike rounds is already looking ahead to 2014, announcing a bid for the sfath. >> i'll be out visiting in a lot of communities around south da
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i mean, i won the election. i had the leverage. why give in? well, simply put, i felt sorry for this man. >> all right. speculation is in full swing over the president's choices to fill his cabinet for the second term. among the position it's true. this is emily schmidt looking atted leading contenders and the potential challenges they face. >> reporter: a late november white house photo op. >> this is a wonderful opportunity for me to meet with my full cabinet. >> maybe the last grims of this picture, an eminent cabinet shuffle is expected. >> the president has got a lot of very, very good people to choose from. he wants to put together a team especially in international affairs, a team overall that going into a second term does not look like a second team, does not look like a group of second stringers. >> the likely short list to succeed secretary of state hillary clinton is politically charged. susan rice is thought to be a leading contenders, but some republicans were highly critical of rice following the aattack on the u.s. consulate in l
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300 elect torl votes. >> so erik, are karl and dick being put in the penalty box? >> i don't know. it was on his website. he said, i'll be on twice next week. it seems they're having to do some pr work. i think that's good. i don't think dick morris -- we don't need to hear from him anymore. >> the question i have, callie, is whether or not -- lots of pundits are wrong about a lot of things, whether they're being made to adopt a lower profile. they weren't just wrong but seen as partisan republicans as opposed to independent analysts. >> i think there's a couple of things going on here. first of all, he wasn't just wrong. he had a meltdown there. that was more than just wrong. >> about the calling of ohio. >> yes. >> okay. >> exactly. so that's -- you know, that's more than wrong. that's a whole event that took place around his being wrong. >>> i think the second part is this is karl rove, not some other pundit. >> all right. >> yeah, yeah, that's what they say. so yeah, yeah. >> let me move on to msnbc. you even done a little reporting on this. rachel maddow had o
300 elect torl votes. >> so erik, are karl and dick being put in the penalty box? >> i don't know. it was on his website. he said, i'll be on twice next week. it seems they're having to do some pr work. i think that's good. i don't think dick morris -- we don't need to hear from him anymore. >> the question i have, callie, is whether or not -- lots of pundits are wrong about a lot of things, whether they're being made to adopt a lower profile. they weren't just wrong but seen...
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, elections of consequences. remember that famous soundbyte? obama ran on higher taxes for the wealthy and won. lz, shouldn't he be making the same argument? that is what he ran on. >> absolutely. you know what i find interesting, if you look at the statistics, many of the blue states that supported president obama are some of the richest states in the country. and so not only did you have him defeat romney pretty handedly in the electoral college, but people willing to sacrifice their own money to make sure that president obama, his policies made it to the white house. you know, it was the exact opposite in just the republicans. some of the red states were some of the poorest states in the country. so i think it is very interesting that when you see average american citizens who happen to be making a little bit more money willing to sacrifice for the good of the country, i think that's a good message and something to get behind and stand on. >> lz, our producers are here, can we keep them over the break? i want
, elections of consequences. remember that famous soundbyte? obama ran on higher taxes for the wealthy and won. lz, shouldn't he be making the same argument? that is what he ran on. >> absolutely. you know what i find interesting, if you look at the statistics, many of the blue states that supported president obama are some of the richest states in the country. and so not only did you have him defeat romney pretty handedly in the electoral college, but people willing to sacrifice their...
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it's the job the american people elected them to do and the american people expect results. they want compromise. in fact, two separate cnn/orc polls, in those polls, an overwhelming number of people, 72%, said both sides should do a better job working together in general. so the people, that's you, want compromise. yet this is how the men and women on capitol hill, the men and women you elected to work for you, have responded over the last 48 hours. >> i think we're going over the cliff. >> it's unfortunate that the white house has spent three weeks doing basically nothing. >> what we can't do is sit here trying to figure out what works for them. >> the president's idea of a negotiation is roll over and do what i ask. >> it's pretty clear to me they've made a political calculation. >> if their ideas are different from ours, we can't guess what they are. >> we look forward to the time when they are specific. >> they need to be more specific. >> some specificity from republicans. >> some of their specifics. >> that's a decision that lies in the hands of the republicans. >> i
it's the job the american people elected them to do and the american people expect results. they want compromise. in fact, two separate cnn/orc polls, in those polls, an overwhelming number of people, 72%, said both sides should do a better job working together in general. so the people, that's you, want compromise. yet this is how the men and women on capitol hill, the men and women you elected to work for you, have responded over the last 48 hours. >> i think we're going over the cliff....
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two days after the election, boehner came up with a tax revenue plan. very controversial in his party. he said, let's cap deductions and loopholes and leave the race alone because that help growth. that was $800 billion. it shocked a lot of republicans. and he got nothing. he got, you know, nothing from obama. and i think that started the bad blood. and i think the president -- >> good point. they both got to learn the art of negotiation. >> we haven't heard from democrats in the senate. i'm going to guarantee you that the democrats in the senate are going to be split on this business of who's rich and what the right tax rates are going to be. >> i have to leave it there, chaps. nick, larry, thank you both much, indeed. >>> coming up next, kerry kennedy joins me about fame, politics and most important of all, taylor swift. like a lot of things, trying to find a better job can be frustrating. so at university of phoenix we're working with a growing list of almost two thousand corporate partners - companies like microsoft, american red cross and adobe - t
two days after the election, boehner came up with a tax revenue plan. very controversial in his party. he said, let's cap deductions and loopholes and leave the race alone because that help growth. that was $800 billion. it shocked a lot of republicans. and he got nothing. he got, you know, nothing from obama. and i think that started the bad blood. and i think the president -- >> good point. they both got to learn the art of negotiation. >> we haven't heard from democrats in the...
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and they were very instrumental in helping him get elected and re-elected. >> reporter: that's right. the election results tell the story. president obama won the union vote handily. nationwide, he won 58% of the union vote. compared to governor romney who got 40%. and unions also contributed heavily to donations and get out the vote efforts. $143 million they gave overall in the 2012 campaign to general candidates and elections in general. only 4% went to republicans. the rest went to democrats and outside spending groups. so you can see the impact they had across the board it and, wolf, while michigan wouldn't be the first state to pass right to work laws, in fact, 23 other states already have right to work laws. so tomorrow michigan could become the 24th state to have one. as the birthplace for the organized labor movement in the u.s., passage for this law in michigan would be a body blow to the labor movement in the u.s., wolf. >> certainly would be. thanks very much for that, jessica. >>> the president's due back here in washington just in a little while from michigan. his focus
and they were very instrumental in helping him get elected and re-elected. >> reporter: that's right. the election results tell the story. president obama won the union vote handily. nationwide, he won 58% of the union vote. compared to governor romney who got 40%. and unions also contributed heavily to donations and get out the vote efforts. $143 million they gave overall in the 2012 campaign to general candidates and elections in general. only 4% went to republicans. the rest went to...
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he has the authority of an election behind him. running for office is a difficult thing to do, and the people that win the elections have a lot more moral authority in a democracy than people who talk about elections. >> ryan, that does seem to be the point. people like grover norquist may not like it and republicans may not like it, but that wasn't what this election said american people want. the majority of them. >> i think it's certainly true you have a large number of americans, 60%, according to a "washington post" abc news poll who favor raising taxes on folks earning more than $250,000 a year. but there are a couple other things to keep in mind, as well. president obama often talks about returning to clinton era tax rates. he wants to raise much more revenue from high earners than the clinton era tax code would have raised. another thing to keep in mind is that president clinton also dramatically lowered capital gains taxes, and that generally benefited high-earners. so a lot of folks believe that's something that balanced
he has the authority of an election behind him. running for office is a difficult thing to do, and the people that win the elections have a lot more moral authority in a democracy than people who talk about elections. >> ryan, that does seem to be the point. people like grover norquist may not like it and republicans may not like it, but that wasn't what this election said american people want. the majority of them. >> i think it's certainly true you have a large number of...
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in the election last month four states voted in favor of same-sex marriage. 33 states in a row previously had voted against it, so the momentum is certainly with supporters of same-sex marriage, but where the court -- how the court responds to public opinion is a complicated and not always entirely predictable subject. >> when are we going to find out how the courts will get involved? >> they don't announce when they are issuing orders in an afternoon. it could be 2:00 eastern. it could be 3:00 eastern. that is generally the range in which we should fine out, so it could be 15 minutes away. it could be an hour or so. or they could put it off for another week. they don't have to announce it in advance when they're going to issue these sorts of things. >> we're standing by. we're waiting to find out. jeff, thanks. >> me too. >> good to see you. >>> how to keep astronauts from being exposed to too much radiation in space. our abundant natural gas is already saving us money, producing cleaner electricity, putting us to work here in america and supporting wind and solar. though all energy deve
in the election last month four states voted in favor of same-sex marriage. 33 states in a row previously had voted against it, so the momentum is certainly with supporters of same-sex marriage, but where the court -- how the court responds to public opinion is a complicated and not always entirely predictable subject. >> when are we going to find out how the courts will get involved? >> they don't announce when they are issuing orders in an afternoon. it could be 2:00 eastern. it...
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there would be an election. he said last night in no uncertain person that person would be nick lal holas. >> all right, patrick ottmann, thank you. appreciate it. live from havana. >>> shifting gears. dallas cowboy linebacker jerry brown has been killed in car accident. he was in a car driven by brent. this comes as we get surveillance video of kansas city player jovan belcher. he made heldlines last beak after killing his girlfriend and then himself. i want to bring in joe carter. joe, let's bring in the dallas cowboys. what more do we know about the tragic accident? sniet obviously happened early saturday morning around 2:30 a.m. josh driving the vehicle. his teammate and roommate was in the passenger seat. he was traveling well above the posted speed limit, which was 45 miles an hour. it hit the curb, flipped over it its top and the police say it slid about 900 feet. they arrested 24-year-old josh brent. one count of intoxicated manslaughter and they obviously pronounced jerry brown jr. dead at the hospital
there would be an election. he said last night in no uncertain person that person would be nick lal holas. >> all right, patrick ottmann, thank you. appreciate it. live from havana. >>> shifting gears. dallas cowboy linebacker jerry brown has been killed in car accident. he was in a car driven by brent. this comes as we get surveillance video of kansas city player jovan belcher. he made heldlines last beak after killing his girlfriend and then himself. i want to bring in joe...
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this is his third cancer that we knew of before the elections in october in venezuela. he said he'd been cured of cancer. that the doctors essentially saved his life. it turned out that that information was incorrect and hugo chavez in a very emotional address tonight to the people of venezuela said he needed to return to cuba immediately to undergo surgery and that his life is essentially on the life. he said good-bye to venezuela, said the support of the vice president -- and hugo chavez perhaps looking at mortality in the face. >> i think it's interesting that he said good-bye to the people of cuba. should we be reading anything into that? >> reporter: i think absolutely. it's been a year and a half where hugo chavez has really spent more time in cuba perhaps than in venezuela. months and months in cuba fighting cancer. some of the speculation flying around this time about his health and he consistently has said that he was receiving very good treatment, that he was recovering. again, it seems like those reports were not accurate, that hugo chavez is someone who's ve
this is his third cancer that we knew of before the elections in october in venezuela. he said he'd been cured of cancer. that the doctors essentially saved his life. it turned out that that information was incorrect and hugo chavez in a very emotional address tonight to the people of venezuela said he needed to return to cuba immediately to undergo surgery and that his life is essentially on the life. he said good-bye to venezuela, said the support of the vice president -- and hugo chavez...
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he just won this election. it's not like the debt ceiling debacle in 2011 went over well with the american public. the american public was disgusted by it, it was brinks manship that people did not like to see, in a recession, they thought it endangered the economy, republicans also know that if you look at the polls and they look at the polls, that the public would blame them if we go over the fiscal cliff by a 2 to 1 margin. so i would say that right now, and i think even republicans would stipulate this, wolf. the president has the leverage here, i mean, republicans also know that if they were to go over the cliff that the tax cuts on the wealthy would increase. you could come back and undue the tax cuts on the middle class expiring. but the president's in a pretty good bargaining position here, which is why you see him sort of hold firm. >> what leverage do the republicans have? >> well, look, i think it -- they understand that for some liberals going over the cliff is okay, because liberals say, you know w
he just won this election. it's not like the debt ceiling debacle in 2011 went over well with the american public. the american public was disgusted by it, it was brinks manship that people did not like to see, in a recession, they thought it endangered the economy, republicans also know that if you look at the polls and they look at the polls, that the public would blame them if we go over the fiscal cliff by a 2 to 1 margin. so i would say that right now, and i think even republicans would...
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it will not be a 57/30 election. >> it always tightens. i'm curious about the other side since you're talking about 2008. marco rubio and paul ryan both spoke at this dinner and they were -- these were speeches where they're trying to define themselves as who they are. both probably going to run in 2016. how would a rubio/ryan stack up against a hillary clinton? in a sense it sort of feels like 2008 reversed, right, except for experience would come on the democratic side with hillary and the youth and this sort of idealism might perhaps come from a rubio or ryan on the republican side? >> well, if i look at that poll you were referring to, hillary clinton is the overwhelming favorite among young people, especially young women. young people and young women, clearly they're going to help determine future elections. look, i think paul ryan and marco rubio, are trying to rebrand themselves and recast the republican party as a party of diversity and, perhaps, big ideas and a larger goalpost. i want to also say this because i have to say this as
it will not be a 57/30 election. >> it always tightens. i'm curious about the other side since you're talking about 2008. marco rubio and paul ryan both spoke at this dinner and they were -- these were speeches where they're trying to define themselves as who they are. both probably going to run in 2016. how would a rubio/ryan stack up against a hillary clinton? in a sense it sort of feels like 2008 reversed, right, except for experience would come on the democratic side with hillary and...
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boy, i wish he'd gone to costco and boxing fights before the election. think it could have been helpful. >> freight conversation. thank you. i'll see you back next weekend if not sooner. have a great rest of your weekend. >> thanks, you too. >>> the syrian civil war is raging from one neighborhood to the next. shortages have families caught in the middle of the conflict, desperate for staples like food and water. we'll give you an exclusive look from inside syria. let's say you want to get ahead in your career. how do you get from here... to here? at university of phoenix we're moving career planning forward so you can start figuring that out sooner. ln fact, by thinking about where want your education to lead, while you're still in school, you might find the best route... leads somewhere you weren't even looking. let's get to work. you can stay in and share something... ♪ ♪ ...or you can get out there with your friends and actually share something. ♪ the lexus december to remember sales event is on, offering some of our best values of the year. th
boy, i wish he'd gone to costco and boxing fights before the election. think it could have been helpful. >> freight conversation. thank you. i'll see you back next weekend if not sooner. have a great rest of your weekend. >> thanks, you too. >>> the syrian civil war is raging from one neighborhood to the next. shortages have families caught in the middle of the conflict, desperate for staples like food and water. we'll give you an exclusive look from inside syria. let's say...
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another reason might be the presidential elections in south korea, which are december 19th. maybe they want to influence or disrupt them. the third is the traditional north korea action to get attention. here we are. we've been out of the headlines, middle east, gaza, rockets there, we're back. and this is what we're capable of doing. those are the three potential reasons that i see. one most likely being kim jun jung-il. he wants to show his people that he governs a powerful nation that wants to show it's nation. >> he is approaching, as chris said, the first anniversary of his rule. how should the international community react when this launch takes place, assuming it's successful. >> i would say the launch will happen. obviously, it's a test of missile technology. the international community, the security council, will invoke more sanctions, the united states and south korea will pursue individual sanctions, it's an act of defiance, but i have said before on your program, that there is something about this guy that may be educated in the united states, educated in switzer
another reason might be the presidential elections in south korea, which are december 19th. maybe they want to influence or disrupt them. the third is the traditional north korea action to get attention. here we are. we've been out of the headlines, middle east, gaza, rockets there, we're back. and this is what we're capable of doing. those are the three potential reasons that i see. one most likely being kim jun jung-il. he wants to show his people that he governs a powerful nation that wants...
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there has been an election. but it does reprise a lot of the arguments from the negotiations between the president and john boehner in the summer of 2011. it's not something that really should be laughed off the page. i mean, the most difficult thing for republicans is accepting an increase in the top rate for the top earners in the tax rate which they don't want to do in this proposal but which they don't ever have to vote for in order to have it happen. i think somehow that will be a key element. >> it's a bad thing that the white house immediately dismissed -- i mean it couldn't have been three hours, four hours maybe. >> i think the president has decided to take a very different approach than he did in 2011. he's not going to put on the table what he thinks the final deal is. he's going to say no, he's going to negotiate it a tough way. the proposal and i hope ron is right and i kind of thing that in the end, as with t.a.r.p. in 2008, when everybody rebelled, and then the markets crashed they got to the righ
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exit polls of last month's elections show that a slight majority of voters think that gay marriage should be legal in their states. >>> moving on now. rain, wind and snow are hammering the west coast. three separate storms in just one week have soaked oregon and washington and northern california. by the way, northern california has been hammered the worst and guess what. a fourth storm is on the way. a lot of areas already dealing with really bad flooding and they thought this was the worst of it. >> this thing just went up fast. real fast. fire department was out here. and got a lot of stuff, you know, away from the house so it didn't float down the road and stuff but this is the worst. >> meteorologist chad myers joins us now at the weather center in atlanta. round four. >> yes. >> this seems just cruel. >> and it gets worse. there will be six more rounds in the next 16 days. i can't stress how much rain that's going to -- once you get rain on the ground like we have now, it doesn't just evaporate and run off. it does run off but doesn't just go away. adding to injury. we have 20 inche
exit polls of last month's elections show that a slight majority of voters think that gay marriage should be legal in their states. >>> moving on now. rain, wind and snow are hammering the west coast. three separate storms in just one week have soaked oregon and washington and northern california. by the way, northern california has been hammered the worst and guess what. a fourth storm is on the way. a lot of areas already dealing with really bad flooding and they thought this was the...
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>> you know, after this election, this issue is so ripe for the supreme court the jurisdictions are so split in their laws, many states recognizing same-sex marriage and performing same-sex marriages. some states not recognizing them. this is the perfect scenario for the supreme court to step in and ultimately make a ruling. there are over 1,000 cases, joe, in which federal laws are impacted by marital status. the time has come. it's ripe. prop 8 was on the doorstep for the supreme court. here we go. >> avery, we were trading e-mails a little bit a while ago. one of the questions i asked you was whether the supreme court essentially gave itself an emergency escape hatch with one of the cases it chose. can you talk about that? >> late yesterday, as you know, joe, the supreme court amended its grant of review when it said, we want to know about the issue of standing. meaning does the person involved in the challenge have the right to be there in the first place. if the court doesn't then what it means in practical terms is if you don't have the right to be in court, you don't have standi
>> you know, after this election, this issue is so ripe for the supreme court the jurisdictions are so split in their laws, many states recognizing same-sex marriage and performing same-sex marriages. some states not recognizing them. this is the perfect scenario for the supreme court to step in and ultimately make a ruling. there are over 1,000 cases, joe, in which federal laws are impacted by marital status. the time has come. it's ripe. prop 8 was on the doorstep for the supreme court....
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they don't have an election until november of 2014. you want to negotiate seriously we'll sit down and talk. you don't want to negotiate seriously, we'll survive going off this cliff. no deal is better than a bad deal. i think going off this cliff is less dangerous than letting things build up for a year or two years to have a bigger cliff. >> gingrich went on to say he doesn't sense any mutual respect right now between the president and house speaker john boehner and that troubles him. >>> a lawyer says john mcafee will request asylum in guatemala. he emerged from weeks of hiding yesterday. he disappeared from his home in belize after his neighbor was murdered. police in belize say mcafee is no the a suspect and they just want to talk to him. mcafee said he feared persecution by police so he left belize. >> i like guatemala. i think the legal system in guatemala is superior to the legal system in belize. >> one official in belize said if mcafee is innocent, he should just talk to them and then he can move on. >>> dash cam individual o
they don't have an election until november of 2014. you want to negotiate seriously we'll sit down and talk. you don't want to negotiate seriously, we'll survive going off this cliff. no deal is better than a bad deal. i think going off this cliff is less dangerous than letting things build up for a year or two years to have a bigger cliff. >> gingrich went on to say he doesn't sense any mutual respect right now between the president and house speaker john boehner and that troubles him....
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she noted that the 2012 election had just ended. she didn't rule out the possibility of a senate run in the future. let's see if she's interested. >> that's absolutely right. >>> "erin burnett outfront" starts at the top of the hour. erin, we hear you've arranged quite the debate over whether republicans should compromise on taxes. give us a preview. >> we are going to have both sides of that. grover norquist, of course, already our guest. he's going to say, we shouldn't have tax increases in this country no matter what, no matter how, no way. then we'll have republican tom cole on, who broke ranks with the republican party, who says, let's extend the bush tax cuts for people making under $250,000 a year and do the rest of it later. something sort of like what the president had put forth. so both of those sides tonight. and then we'll talk about the movie "zero dark 30," already getting oscar buzz, about the raid and capture of osama bin laden. there was all of this concern about whether there was classified information that was lin
she noted that the 2012 election had just ended. she didn't rule out the possibility of a senate run in the future. let's see if she's interested. >> that's absolutely right. >>> "erin burnett outfront" starts at the top of the hour. erin, we hear you've arranged quite the debate over whether republicans should compromise on taxes. give us a preview. >> we are going to have both sides of that. grover norquist, of course, already our guest. he's going to say, we...
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if our elected leaders don't do something about that looming fiscal cliff. and that is just the beginning. big splash with the employees. [ duck yelling ] [ male announcer ] find out more at... [ duck ] aflac! [ male announcer ] ...forbusiness.com. ♪ ha ha! five days later, i had a massive heart attack. bayer aspirin was the first thing the emts gave me. now, i'm on a bayer aspirin regimen. [ male announcer ] be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen. [ woman ] learn from my story. >>> welcome back. 16 minutes past the hour. no one can be sure if the white house and congress will steer the country away from that so called fiscal cliff, which now is just 24 days away. but it's probably a good idea for you and your family to be prepared just in case. earlier, i spoke with stephanie rule of bloomberg tv about what could happen if the deal is not reached. >> people talk about the cliff like it's this major event, which it is. but almost like a y2k. from a paycheck perspective, you will see less money in your paycheck if we do fall off
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and on election day, voters in three states approved same-sex marriage. "outfront," mckay coppins, tim carney and maria cardona, cnn contributor and democratic strategist. this is kind of big news in all of this. tim, you saw the polls. now the supreme court will get involved in this. should this signal something to the republican party? should they say it's reached this level, we need to rethink our position on this? >> polls are one thing. there's also the fact most states don't have gay marriage yet and most of those that do, it was not put in by the will of the people. i'm a marylander. we did -- our state did vote for gay marriage. most of them had to do with judges ruling. if the supreme court does for gay marriage what it did for abortion and roe v. wade and said, no, this is not in the hands of the people. we're going to say there's gay marriage, that would do a lot to fire up the republican base and could turn this issue on its head and it could become a big winner for republicans because they'd feel disenfranchised. >> what about the flip side?
and on election day, voters in three states approved same-sex marriage. "outfront," mckay coppins, tim carney and maria cardona, cnn contributor and democratic strategist. this is kind of big news in all of this. tim, you saw the polls. now the supreme court will get involved in this. should this signal something to the republican party? should they say it's reached this level, we need to rethink our position on this? >> polls are one thing. there's also the fact most states...